I've Made It To The Big Time

As the Mountain Meadows Massacre continues to be discussed on Pro-Mormon message boards all over the internet, more and more people have been checking out my site due in part to the link given by smac97 on the mormon apolgetics board set up by fairlds.org. I've always maintained that the best source of information for leaving the church can be found on site run by those who will defend the faith tooth and nail, using any and every means possible in order to make the church look like the victim in every instance, and doing their very best to paint all of us former Mormons as "fallen sinners" and "under Satan's influence", etc. Well, I would like to take this opportunity to thank smac97 for pointing the way to my site, and tell him what the results of his link have done for his cause.

smac97, not only did i get a rush of folks coming to my page to verify what you said that I said, (even though I was merely quoting from a news source and pasted it to my blog), I also can brag that many of the folks that checked out my site that day stuck around and read many other posts, topics that you didn't link them to. You are doing a good job leading others into the right directions to get source material from outside Mormondom, and you are doing it under the guise of being a faithful LDS member. I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your efforts as a double agent, while carefully planting links to all of us "disgusting Anti's with an ax to grind" so that anyone checking out our blogs may fall upon a logical discussion of all things Mormon and maybe hit upon things that can not be so heartily explained away. Obviously, you can't do that yourself or you risk losing your rank in the Morgdom. But showing others the paths to search out for themselves is exactly what is necessary for the truth to finally burst forth. I thank you again, smac97, for making me famous at the mormon apologetics board, because without your link, they wouldn't know I was out here, muddying up the waters and causing such a racket with my little blog of Mormonism. My hit counter jumped 42 spots in ONE day because of your link. Thanks for doing your part to make sure Mormonism is exposed for what it really is. Keep up the good work.

Before you go, please check out my side bar, I have lots of posts on many interesting and never-before-heard of topics like the Kinderhook Plates, the Adam-God theory, polygamy in Nauvoo, the Kirtland Bank failure, the real translation of the papyrus Joseph called the Book of Abraham, and discussions on what it would take to build a Jaredite ship, or how metals and horses could have been used in the Americas before they were known, and why the hill Cumorah couldn't possibly be in New York, even though that's what Joseph Smith claimed. That's just a sampling of what makes the Mormon church false, not whether or not Brigham Young ordered the massacre of 120 men women and children because they might have been associated with people from Northern Missouri. I don't have to simply prove Brigham Young was a false prophet in order to prove the church is false. It's been false from day one, with Joseph Smith's lies and cover-ups. The church has a long history of lies and cover-ups, just google Mark Hofmann and you'll see what I mean. It's all up to you , Mormon faithful. You can get yourself out of this cult and the control it holds over you the minute you figure out that it's all been a hoax from the beginning. Stop trying to conform to a religious ideal you could NEVER obtain without a 'second anointing'. Quit paying tithing to keep your temple ticket active. Get your life back before your kids get sucked in completely and you're the one standing outside the temple waiting for them to appear after their wedding cult ceremony. READ SOMETHING FOR ONCE!!!

And Now---The Rest of the Story

Quote from a pro-Mormon message board:


"When one reflects on the persecution of the early Saints, it can lead to a clearer understanding of why the MMM happened. The Saints were whipped into a frenzy based on fear that they were going to be driven out of Utah. This frenzy grew to the point where the individuals who participated in the massacre had lost their ability to reason. The end result was the slaughter of innocent men, women and children."


So goes the attitude of the faithful LDS. All over the Internet, on message boards and an article in the latest Ensign magazine, the church takes the stance that it was a horrible tragedy, but there were reasons why it happened. In the which-came-first drama, we are to believe that the first strike was laid against the Mormons, way back in Palmyra, New York in 1830. They have always been persecuted unfairly, they have always been the victims. They would have you believe that every instance of disagreement with their neighboring Non-Mormon communities resulted in unfair persecution because of their faith. If you are Mormon, and looking into this historical event for the very first time ever, you'll need to hang on to this persecution complex as much as possible in order to maintain your testimony that the church is what is proclaims to be: a victim of persecution and hostility. This is designed to prove to you that your church is true, because of the belief that the more persecution it receives, the more evidence of it's truthiness.

I am now going to share several links that will uncover these incidents of unfair persecution. Among these will undoubtedly be stories most rank-and-file Mormons have never heard about. And that is to be expected in a church that wouldn't willingly hand over information to their enemies, just so it could be used against them later. It's amazing what you can learn when you no longer have to limit your reach and keep only accounts written by LDS spin doctors.


***Most of these links will take you to Wikipedia listings for these topics. The purpose to linking these articles is not because I believe them to be 100% accurate by any means. I am certain that there is room for correction, and additional information. The intent is to show an unbiased account of these occurrences, for they are neither pro- or anti- Mormon in nature. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and can be altered and corrected by anyone who can cite their sources and document their reasoning, likewise, information posted can be challenged by anyone else who can show their documentation. This is to encourage Mormon readers to look up information on their own, independent of the church, and decide for themselves what facts are true and what facts are 'not useful' for promoting a testimony of truth.***


An Introduction to Joseph Smith

Persecution in New York

The Kirtland Safety Society

Settling in Missouri

The Mormon War

The Salt Sermon

Danites

Gallatin Election Day Battle

Expelled from DeWitt County

Daviess Expedition

Battle of Crooked River

Extermination Order

Haun's Mill Massacre

Seige of Far West

Nauvoo and Theocracy

Joseph Smith's Political Ideal

Polygamy in Nauvoo

The Quorum of the Anointed

The Nauvoo Expositor

Why Joseph Smith was murdered

September Dawn: Mormons Portrayed as Religious Zealots Bent on Revenge

I thought that the frenzied speeches and the wild accusations the Mormon bishop used to stir up anger and hatred against the wagon train really made Mormons look like crazy wild-eyed terrorists, (and the Micah character didn't help either). But, as much as I disagree with the portrayal of Mormons as blood-thirsty vengeance seeking bastards, I have to stop myself and ask the questions:

What would it have taken to stir up the Mormons to do such a hateful, vile thing if it wasn't the frenzied speeches of their leaders and their call to duty to perform the acts of vengeance they covenanted to do in the temple?

Does anyone really believe that they calmly sat around a campfire sipping Ovaltine and discussing the pros and cons? Did they spend three days and nights praying in the temple, waiting for a vision from God and a confirmation that this is what they were to do?

Mormons no doubt would like us to believe that this was just an isolated group of religious zealots who had blood lust and were just looking for an excuse to show the rest of the U.S. not to mess with the Mormon Empire. After all, weren't the U.S. troops supposedly on their way to start a war with the Mormons? One wouldn't have to look very far into the history books to discover why that is, yet Mormons would have everyone thinking that they were only protecting themselves from a first strike. They want us to believe that they have been unfairly persecuted and cast out from their homes everywhere they settled, but a closer look would uncover the true facts of why they were treated harshly. Polygamy, claiming absolute authority of God, marching about proclaiming that all they see will eventually belong to them because they are God's chosen people, Joseph Smith boasting himself as the new Mohammed and claiming that no other man ever did such a great work as he did; these are the reasons the Mormons were driven out of Ohio, out of Missouri, and eventually out of Illinois, not "religious persecution" but 'religious zealousness".

The "poor me" attitude only get them so far. Those of us who care to really look into the history surrounding Joseph's Kirtland Banking business in Ohio, his Zion's camp activities and pompousness in Missouri, the development and deployment of the Danites, his self-grandiose stylings as General of the Nauvoo Legion and presidential candidate of the Mormons, (even to the extent of being proclaimed King) is what brought persecution on the heads of the Mormons. Not wearing funny underwear and abstaining from coffee.

Imagine how it would feel if we had a Muslim family move into your all-white Christian neighborhood, and told everyone they met that eventually everything they owned and all their land would belong to them, because God was coming to restore his kingdom on earth right in your backyard. How long would it take before that family was run out of town? Likewise, imagine a single Christian family in a Taliban state. Would it be wise for them to walk about preaching superiority and denouncing all others apostates?

I would love to hear some staunch Mormon explain ANY OTHER WAY these men could have been stirred up in such a way as to kill women and children who obviously would not have been involved (directly or indirectly) with the murder of Joseph Smith, or any of the attacks on the Mormon people in Missouri or Illinois. Whether or not they were the spouses or children of the men who perpetrated the crimes, THEY did not need to be slaughtered to atone for those sins in any case. EVEN IF it could be proved that the Fancher-Baker party had the original gun that killed Joseph Smith, where was the trial by jury? Where was the evidence, or the eye-witness accounts? And why would the women and children be just as guilty, and in just as much need of 'blood atonement'?

The only logical answer to that is that they would be witnesses to THIS CRIME and needed to be permanently silenced. If the Mormons had been justified in their murderous acts, the women and children could have been spared. Instead they were 'done away with' and butchered on the prairie. And the Mormons kept the 'spoils of war': the wagons, horses, cattle, gold, weapons, clothing and furniture, and even the personal jewelry of the slain. And the babies were adopted into 'proper' Mormon homes, away from the evil influences of their 'gentile' birth.

Can any Mormon faithful man or woman please explain it to me so that my eyes can see the hand of God in this dastardly, cowardly act of vengence?