Friday, July 27, 2007

The Best Proof--Part 4

Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, delivered in the

Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 9, 1859.


You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race-that they should be the "servant of servants;" and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree. How long is that race to endure the dreadful curse that is upon them? That curse will remain upon them, and they never can hold the Priesthood or share in it until all the other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood and the keys thereof. Until the last ones of the residue of Adam's children are brought up to that favourable position, the children of Cain cannot receive the first ordinances of the Priesthood. They were the first that were cursed, and they will be the last from whom the curse will be removed. When the residue of the family of Adam come up and receive their blessings, then the curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will receive blessings in like proportion.

A Discourse by President Brigham Young,

Delivered in the Tabernacle,

Great Salt Lake City, Feb. 18, 1855


In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the children of Ham were to be the "servant of servants," and no power under heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord should permit them to welter under the curse, and those were known to be our religious views concerning them.

Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, made in the Tabernacle,

Great Salt Lake City, March 8, 1863


Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.


***My Thoughts***

If Gordon Hinckley doesn't know why it took clear up to 1978 to allow black men to become priesthood holders, what kind of a prophet could he possibly be?

Here's the golden question: As a True-Believing Mormon, how could you possibly consider Brigham Young to have been a prophet of God, when his prophecy of "death on the spot" obviously did NOT come to pass?

Want a list of failed prophecies? For starters:

  • Brigham Young - Cain and his posterity will remain cursed and not receive the priesthood until all other children of Adam have had this privilege. — Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 143 (December 12, 1854)

  • Brigham Young - The curse will remain on blacks so that they can never hold the Mormon priesthood until all other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood. — Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 291 (October 9, 1859)

  • George Q. Cannon - A temple shall be reared in the Center Stake of Zion in the generation in which the the revelation was given. — Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 344 (October 23, 1864), cf. D&C 84 prediction of temple to be built in Zion, Missouri.

  • Orson Pratt - "God promised in the year 1832 that we should, before the generation then living had passed away, return and build up the City of Zion in Jackson County." — Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 362 (May 5, 1870)

  • Brigham Young - For Congress to demand relinquishment of polygamy is to ask for renunciation of entire faith. All talk of another revelation is childish babble. Mormonism is in its entirety revelation from God or nothing at all. Millennial Star, vol. 27, p. 675-676

  • Heber C. Kimball - Plurality of wives is a law established by God forever. It would be easier for the United States to build a tower to remove the sun as to remove polygamy. Millennial Star, vol. 28, p. 190

***How can Brigham Young possibly be considered a prophet? He failed the test!Deuteronomy 18:20-22 (New International Version)


20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

21 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?" 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

Here's some more from Joseph Smith, the first 'false prophet' of Mormonism:

Joseph Smith - A city shall be built, New Jerusalem [State of Missouri], in which a temple shall be reared in this generation — Doctrine and Covenants 84:3-5 (September 22 & 23, 1832)

  • Joseph Smith - City of Zion, Missouri shall "become glorious, very great and very terrible," and "Surely Zion is the city of our God, and surely Zion cannot fall, neither be moved out of her place...". Doctrine and Covenants 97:18-20 (August 2, 1833)

  • Joseph Smith - Mormons will return to Zion, the only place God has appointed for the saints. [Zion is Independence, MO. The Mormons were driven out of Missouri in 1838. Doctrine and Covenants 101:16-21 (December 16, 1833)

  • Joseph Smith - Treasure, gold and silver, would be found in Salem, Massachusetts and would be theirs. Doctrine and Covenants 111:1-11 (August 6, 1836)

  • Joseph Smith - Far West is to be a holy city and the location of the Lord's House. [No temple was ever built there.] Doctrine and Covenants 115:7-12 (April 26, 1838)

  • Joseph Smith - The name of Oliver Granger shall be had in sacred remembrance from generation to generation, forever and ever. Doctrine and Covenants 117:12-15 (July 8, 1838)

  • Joseph Smith - Revelation regarding John C. Bennett who is to help Joseph Smith, "And for his love he shall be great" Doctrine and Covenants 124:16-17 (January 19, 1841). Joseph did make Bennett Nauvoo's mayor, but unbeknownst to Joseph, Bennett had abandoned his wife and family in Indiana and was professing to be Nauvoo's most eligible bachelor (Joseph Smith the Mormon, p. 147-148). Joseph would later write of Bennett: "It is evident that his general character is that of an adulterer of the worst kind. ... More than twenty months [since the Fall of 1840] ago Bennett went to a lady in the city and began to teach her that promiscuous intercourse between the sexes was lawful and no harm in it, and requested the privilege of gratifying his passions; ... and in order to finish the controversy, said and affirmed that I both taught and acted in the same manner. (History of the Church, vol. 5, p. 42)

  • Joseph Smith - Prophecy by the authority of Jesus Christ of a soon to come time of bloodshed, pestilence, hail, famine and earthquake. — History of the Church, vol. 1, p. 315 (January 4, 1833)

  • Joseph Smith - Made known to him in vision and by the Spirit that the coming of the Lord was nigh, 56 years should wind up the scene. — History of the Church, vol. 2, p. 182 (February 14, 1835)

  • Joseph Smith - "I prophesy in the name of the Lord god of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed ... in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left" — History of the Church, vol. 5, p. 394 (May 18, 1843)

  • Joseph Smith - "I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, anguish and wrath and tribulation and the withdrawing of the Spirit of God from the earth await this generation, until they are visited with utter desolation. ... I prophesy they never will have power to kill me till my work is accomplished, and I am ready to die." — History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 58 (October 15, 1843)

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It seems pretty obvious that Joseph Smith failed the test as well. So, flash forward to Gordon Hinckley the current Mormon "prophet". What sort of things has he "prophesied"?

Gordon B. Hinckley, in an interview reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1997, commented on revelation and the present-day church:

Q: And this belief in contemporary revelation and prophecy? As the prophet, tell us how that works. How do you receive divine revelation? What does it feel like?

A: Let me say first that we have a great body of revelation, the vast majority of which came from the prophet Joseph Smith. We don't need much revelation. We need to pay more attention to the revelation we've already received.

These words of Hinckley were prophesied over 2000 years ago (or 170 years ago, if you think Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon):

2 Nephi 28:27-30

Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more! ... 29 Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough! 30 For behold, thus saith the Lord God: ... for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have.

Micah 3:5-11

Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, ... 6 Therefore night [shall be] unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for [there is] no answer of God. ... 11 ... yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, [Is] not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.


***Where are your prophets, True-Believing Mormons? Without them, how can the Mormon church claim 'restoration of ALL things? What marvelous works are coming to pass in this day? The biggest project the church has going right now is the TWO BILLION DOLLAR Crossroads Mall under construction across the street from Temple Square. This is while simultaneously CUTTING the missionaries food budget of $145 per month to $130 permanently.

Don't believe me? Check with a missionary, or the families of missionaries who support their loved ones with $400 a month, only to find that $130 is all they are allowed to use for groceries, laundry, toilet paper and medicine!!!
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